bad accounts. now being investigated i need advi

bad accounts. now being investigated i need advi

Postby Johnross on Tue Mar 15, 2011 10:47 pm

:cry: please help me!!!!
I hope someone can advise me and put me out of my misery. (and make me sleep again)
Firstly, i accept i am an idiot before anyone tells me so!!! but i really need some advice as to what is the best step now, to take.
here goes
i started up in business about 5 years ago inthe construction industry as a sub contractor. I have been subbing to the same company for pretty much the same time.
originally i had my own van tools fuel etc etc that i could and did claim for, but for the past 2 years they let me use their van and a fuel card. I, however, still put through any receipts i could get my hands on for fuel and vehicle parts/costs in order to get a tax rebate.
I have also done a few cash jobs and not put these through the books, although i did put receipts in for the materials used. (these could , questionably, be accounted for in my subbing jobs.)

i have never had a business bank account and have three private accounts. One in which the company pays me, then it gets taken out in full and is transfered into my home/bills account. i then transfer a hundred or so into my debit account if i need to buy anything for work, ie, food, tools parts for jobs etc as well as personal items not linked to buisness.
I occasionally buy things on the internet for work purposes and these have come out of the 'bills' account, so now, this is classed as my busness account.

I filled in my tax return online and, 2008/09. I am useless at keeping things organised and all receipts get thrown into a box til the end of the year and half way through i got fed up and just put a figure into the computer that i thought was about right, and thought it would be ok. I got a rebate of a couple of thousand pounds.
I pretty much based the next year on the same amount as i had earned roughly the same.

This year, however, i have been much more organised and decided to log everything down properly, as it was getting me down, I felt really good about it all and then i got a leter dropped through my door the other day from HMRC!!! they are doing a check of my accounts and want a full breakdown.
they have asked
1. whether any estimated figures were used and if so why.
2. Are there any unsupported entries and if so why
3. details of any other monies received ie, gifts, loans etc.

they want to see
1. invoices books records for the turnover, which i do have.
2. breakdown and receipts/bills in support of expenses
3. bank / building society statements etc. used for business purposes
4. credit card statements for any business use

i really am up the preverbial!!

my statements show the company payments, which is fine.
it also shows money and standing orders to family for savings etc. children £50 and £30 per month.
i had for about 8 months £250 per month into my sisters account for savings (she lived with me and it was more because i was crap at managing my money and she would transfer it back throughout the months when i asked for it.)

about 8 large, ish sums were deposited, sold a caravan and a few bits which total £6000, the highest being £2000 and the lowest being £50.

I want to hold my hands up and say, look i fiddled the books, put it right!! what will they do?
i am gutted, especially as this was my , good year' and i had mended my bookkeeping ways.

any positive advice is greatly appreciated please.

any negative, well, i deserve it :oops: so , knock yourself out!
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Re: bad accounts. now being investigated i need advi

Postby pawncob on Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:23 pm

As this was the year when you had good records you can probably supply HMRC with all the info they requested. If they're satisfied with this, it's unlikely that they'll look at previous years.

It's best to make a clean breast of it and tell them that previous years' accounts included some "estimated" figures which may require correction. This will almost certainly result in an investigation of those years and as you have minimal records, they may base their estimates for those years on the latest year. Either way you are looking at fines and penalties amounting to several thousand pounds. I'd recommend you approach a local accountant experienced in investigation work. His fees will probably be covered by the amount of tax you save.
With a pinch of salt take what I say, but don't exceed your RDA
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Re: bad accounts. now being investigated i need advi

Postby Johnross on Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:57 pm

thankyou for your reply. the fines, i will take on he chin, i was just worried about going to prison lol . i know it sounds extreme but its really worrying .
is it best to look online for a suitable tax adviser or locally sdo you think? :|
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Re: bad accounts. now being investigated i need advi

Postby alchemy 11 on Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:34 pm

Hi Johnross,

Where are you based?
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Re: bad accounts. now being investigated i need advi

Postby pawncob on Wed Mar 16, 2011 1:36 pm

I'd recommend you try the "Find a Professional" button, above.
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Re: bad accounts. now being investigated i need advi

Postby Johnross on Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:26 pm

i am in the midlands
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Re: bad accounts. now being investigated i need advi

Postby wamstax on Thu Mar 17, 2011 10:36 am

Hi John,
I see that it could in fact be the earlier immediately preceding year that the letter relates to. In that event you really need to take advice from somebody that knows the ropes. While there is potential for HMRC getting involved in flights of fancy with the cash jobs; clearly your intention should be to make a full disclosure and get your enquiry settled as soon as possible with appropriate tax and penalty mitigation If you need to discuss matters please feel free to give me a call on 0775 172 0507. First telephone consultation is always free - just in case we do not want to work together.

bill@wamstaxltd.com
www.wamstaxltd.com
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Re: bad accounts. now being investigated i need advi

Postby wamstax on Fri Mar 18, 2011 1:57 am

John Ross
Email provided does not work
regards
Bill
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Re: bad accounts. now being investigated i need advi

Postby Johnross on Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:58 am

j1@ross.tc

alternative email
many thanks
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