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VAT and self assessment

UKtrader
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Joined:Sat Sep 16, 2017 9:20 pm
VAT and self assessment

Postby UKtrader » Mon Sep 18, 2017 1:47 pm

Dear Sir Madam

Last year HMRC VAT department contacted me to inform me that I should be VAT registered business as I went over the threshold four years ago, I was not aware about it I was clueless I thought VAT is for big businesses I am just a sole trader I never heard about the threshold.I had to pay £30000 plus penalties to HMRC to cover what I owed of VAT, unfortunately I made a loss paying this amount as I was in deficit.
As far as I know 20% tax and 9 % class 4 NIC are applied only on net profit after deducting all costs (Tax allowance, stock and all business expenses)
My questions is the £30000 payed to VAT should not be included in my self assessment as profit ? unfortunately I did include this amount. Could you please advise me how to recover the amount that I should not include as profit. Your help is very appreciated

LozaACCS
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Joined:Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:55 pm

Re: VAT and self assessment

Postby LozaACCS » Wed Sep 20, 2017 9:08 am

I encountered this issue some years ago in a POCA case.
You are correct in that the income you previously declared was subsequently found to be overstated so your SA liability proved to be incorrect.
You would need to pursue a claim for re payment with HMRC, the obstacles which I suspect will defeat the claim are the 4 year time limit and that HMRC are likely to contend that the claim is not within the parameters in Sch 1AB of the MA1970


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