NRCGT return

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Rumour circulating that the person responsible for implementing NRCGT penalties moved to the Home Office and was behind the £1,500 fine handed out to the Essex couple who had a migrant hide in their bike rack...all the hallmarks of zero common sense.

£1,500 fine cancelled. Did Sir Jim mean what he said about trust in HMRC ...if so, will he review how HMRC robbed taxpayers with NRCGT penalty appeals being denied? Suspect it was just a meaningless soundbite.

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5213498 183K views in a few days...looks nuts.

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From a recent accountingweb thread (perhaps diverting resources to MTD4IT at cost in other areas):

Does anyone know how long HMRC is taking to process paper CGT returns?

Does anyone know how long HMRC is taking to process paper CGT returns? Client submitted his on paper mid Jan (HMRC would not allow online submission for 'special reasons') and he has heard zilch. If I submit his SA100 now, I'll need to amend it to show tax paid and reference when he finally pays the tax and gets ref. As we all know it's a rubbish system. This would be an ideal one for HMRC's 'where's my reply?' tool but of course it's not one of included options :-

By kevinringer
08th Jul 2025 10:49
I'd contact HMRC and ask them how they want the Tax Return filling in, then I'd send a letter of complaint to HMRC and I'd let my PB know as this is yet another area that HMRC don't have under control and seems to be getting worse. This regime has been in place for 5 years so HMRC have had plenty of time to make it work efficiently, and HMRC can't say it will be improved by MTD. What would help is allowing agents to report online without the client having to setup a CGT account first. All the paper PPDCGT forms I've submitted have been for clients who are digitally excluded and are unable to open an online CGT account, and HMRC say us agents shouldn't open an account for them.

I agree about the 'where's my reply'. Before I was expelled from the Agent Forum I asked for this (and other issues) to be included, but HMRC have done thing. There are links for leaving feedback at the bottom of the page, which I have filled in, but they've been ignored too. By the way, the dates quoted are fictitious. Last week it said HMRC were processing paper appeals received on 25 December. Given there's no post received on 25 December, HMRC couldn't possibly be processing appeals received that day.

By TaxAngel
04th Jul 2025 11:53
Yes, years is what concerned me but good to hear someone else got a demand in 'only' 18 weeks. Clients pay penalty for taking more than 60 days but HMRC takes its time to do what is needed. An ex-client living abroad is still to receive a demand for £10,000s on a paper return submitted in early 2021 ..... I thought HMRC was supposed to be improving collection of tax and the country is certainly running short of money. If the forms are not processed, fat chance of improving matters.

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Still causing headaches for both HMRC and taxpayers....#let's make tax reporting as complicated as possible


https://www.accountingweb.co.uk/any-answers/60-day-cgt-reporting-hmrc-changes?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=AWUKTUE220725&utm_content=AWUKTUE220725+CID_0b17ec2d6b8969ef1a4c83ff674295d5&utm_source=internal_cm&utm_term=60-day%20CGT%20reporting

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We live in a world where people say one thing, but their actions say another:

Ask Sky Sports golf whether they think they treat men/women equally, you will probably get a definite 'yes'. And yet, we have a female English golfer showing early signs of Tiger Woods ability out on the course right now, playing the biggest event of the year, and zero coverage until midday.

Straight out of the Jim Harra box of tricks....something along the lines of ....the Taxpayers Charter is central to everything we do....absolute *******. Evidenced by the wildly fluctuating NRCGT penalty appeal success rates.

Where are the grumpy Robin Day type journalists calling out these mismatches?. Allow this stuff to go unchallenged and you end up in the mess we are in today.

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Where are the grumpy Robin Day type journalists calling out these mismatches?. Allow this stuff to go unchallenged and you end up in the mess we are in today.

It seems a number of Government Departments are attempting to prove this observation to be correct.

Remember:

The Taxpayer Charter used to say taxpayers will be treated fairly....97 per cent NRCGT penalty appeals dismissed in one quarter and 1% dismissed in another.....sound fair?

Taxpayers Charter changed to muddy the fairness clause.

Freedom of information requests denied but then the same information released to others.

NRCGT appeal case summay in favour of a taxpayer not published despite repeated requests for it to be released.

People who are supposed to regulate HMRC allowed this behaviour to go unchecked encouraging HMRC to believe they can do what they like.....still looking for Robin Day.

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People who are supposed to regulate HMRC allowed this behaviour to go unchecked encouraging HMRC to believe they can do what they like.....still looking for Robin Day.

Swap HMRC with the US....President Trump likes this post.

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AI is impotent if someone doesn't do the necessary legwork.....'up-to-the-minute'....you are 5 years out of date!

While the exact, up-to-the-minute total for all Non-Resident Capital Gains Tax (NRCGT) return late filing penalties is not explicitly stated in a single, recent public report, available data suggests the amount is significant. In early 2021, reports indicated that HMRC had already issued at least £1.3 million in late filing penalties specifically for Capital Gains Tax on UK residential property disposals.

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A summary of this thread:

-HMRC's Charter said taxpayers are to be treated fairly.
-HMRC treated taxpayers unfairly...99% appeals denied in one quarter....99% of appeals successful in a following quarter.
-Nobody has attempted to take remedial action.

Conclusion...those in charge of HMRC are demonstrating the behaviour of a tax felon.