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overses income letter

Ant93
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overses income letter

Postby Ant93 » Sun Jun 20, 2021 2:46 pm

Hello everyone,
I'am in desperate need of help. I received a a letter from HMRC regarding overseas income that basically says we believe you have not declared overseas income.
I initially thought it could be something to do with foreign dividends which i declared in SA 6 years ago.
I phoned HMRC to get more information and they said that income was from Italy and are postal bonds, he also mentioned interest earned.
I have now found out that my Father had my name on these Italian postal bonds as well as his. I was second named, apparently you put a name place of birth and date of birth.
I had no knowledge my name was on these bonds.
He cashed in these bonds and transferred the money to the UK.
The interest on these postal bonds are calculated and taxed on remittance.
I have tried to get as much information from my dad but he is now 92 and partially death.
I'am in despair as I don't know what to do and having sleepless nights over this.
Thanks for responses

wamstax
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Re: overses income letter

Postby wamstax » Sun Jun 20, 2021 6:36 pm

Hi There
" have tried to get as much information from my dad but he is now 92 and partially death" - assume you mean "partially deaf". If so I do not see why this would be an insurmountable problem.

If as you say your name being on the bonds was unknown to you and non of the benefit came to you this should be easily resolved by your father writing an appropriate letter to HMRC advising that the whole capital and income was his personal income (and sole assets - having been wholly contributed by himself) and when and where he disclosed this income for taxation to HMRC. If he is liable to tax then clearly he would need to ensure that he declared the income for taxation at the appropriate time or take advice from a suitably qualified tax adviser to deal with any necessary disclosure. If he could do that it should get you out of that particular hole.

I am not quite clear or convinced as to your statement that the income was taxable on the remittance basis as opposed to the arising basis - but of course this could be correct depending on your father's residence and/or domicile and years he has been in the UK.

You do however also need to address your own personal "SA dividends" as if you were resident in the UK and taxable on your worldwide income you might also have had to declare the income to the UK tax authorities - subject of course to double taxation relief and/or restrictions on monies that could not be remitted from SA.

Hope that this helps.
regards and hope this helps
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veatax
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Re: overses income letter

Postby veatax » Wed May 24, 2023 12:18 am

Hi Ant93

How did this ended up? Would you mind sending me a PM I am also dealing with a similar situation?

Thanks

wamstax
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Re: overses income letter

Postby wamstax » Wed May 24, 2023 12:04 pm

Veatax
Be very careful as overseas income is and has been the hot potato since Sep 2018.

Each case will depend on its own facts
regards and hope this helps
http://www.wamstaxltd.com
Operates Nationally with competitive costs
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veatax
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Re: overses income letter

Postby veatax » Wed May 24, 2023 2:54 pm

Hi wamstax

I am totally aware of this, in fact I have not received any letter from HRMC. The transaction happened in the past tax year and it has always been my intention to include such foreign incomes in my tax return no doubt.
I was asking for pure curiosity. At the end of the day those interests are not subject to double taxation so the amount of taxes that I've already paid are given back and taxes are recalculated.

Thanks for your message anyway


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