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Employer not passing on payments to IR..?

Cookie
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Postby Cookie » Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:00 am

My wife has just left the small catering company where she's worked the last 3 years, she's been stopped income tax and national insurance during this time. However, the figures on her P45 were totally wrong and no Nat Ins number filled in - her ex-employer says she 'doesn't have it, you'll have to fill it in yourself' We strongly suspect that the employer hasn't been passing on her payments to IR.
How can an individual check their 'account' to see what national insurance and income tax payments they have made over recent years?
Thanks in advance for any advice you may have.

adelante
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Postby adelante » Mon Apr 10, 2006 1:15 am

Ring up your tax office. See www.hmrc.gov.uk.

If they have not been paying tax and NI then that would be fraud.

Cookie
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Postby Cookie » Mon Apr 10, 2006 3:25 am

Thanks but she's found it surprisingly difficult and frustrating. Called two different numbers (call centres) and hasnt really got a satisfatory response. One operator actually told her there was no record of her on the system, but didnt give her a case number or name etc that she could check to see if anything was happening about it.
Her former employer of three years doesnt have her NI number - is it actually even POSSIBLE for them to pass on her contributions without it?
At this stage I'm just thinking that it must surely be possible, for any individual, to check the condition of their NI contribution history (and income tax) to see for OURSELVES if she's been swindled. but...how do we do it?? Any suggestions please?

adelante
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Postby adelante » Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:26 am

Try http://www.thepensionservice.gov.uk/ato ... recast.asp

When you get a pension forecast it will show you which years you have not made any contributions for NI. However if the employers do not have your wifes NI number it is unlikely they will have made any contributions. NI does depend on how much she was earning. If it was very low then there may not be any NI to pay

claymore
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Postby claymore » Mon Apr 10, 2006 7:03 am

From what you say, it certainly sounds as if something is amiss here. I would suggest that you contact your local Inland Revenue Enquiry Centre (see Telephone Directory) and arrange an appointment with someone in the Revenue Exeutive grade. You should take with you as much information as you have about the employer, including all documents that your wife has about her employment there.

At the meeting, you can outline precisely what your concerns are. The Revenue will not tell you the outcome if they decide to investigate the employer - but you don't really need to know anyway. Your objective is to make sure that your wife's tax and NI are up to date and that the Revenue has proper records for her.

As far as your wife's personal tax is concerned, if tax has been deducted, she will be credited with it irrespective of whether the employer has actually paid it over to the Revenue - recovery is a matter between the Revenue and the employer. So, if she has paid too much, she can still claim a repayment, even if the Revenue hasn't received the money from the employer.

Cookie
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Postby Cookie » Tue Apr 11, 2006 1:24 am

Thanks for your replies. We registered her for a government gateway ID last night so she can check her pension forecast online.
In the meantime she's spoken to the NI people. The last record they have of her is with her previous employer about three years ago. They asked her to post copies of her P60's (which clearly state NI contributions)which she is doing today


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