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Company Car Nightmare - please help!

krs6248
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Joined: Thu Sep 17, 2015 4:36 pm

Company Car Nightmare - please help!

Postby krs6248 » Thu Sep 17, 2015 4:55 pm

Hi all,

I recently left my old employment for a firm where I worked PAYE. My salary was 36k and on top of that I received £399.95 per month for a car allowance. Originally the car was going to get taken out from the company but they could not get the credit so I took it personally, big mistake!

Essentially from a legal point of view the finance was in my name and I got reimbursed with my wages each month to pay the finance and got taxed accordingly which worked out at around £80 per month. I have always paid for my own fuel and only claimed back fuel that I paid for, for company miles. I also taxed and insured the car personally. When I handed in my notice I advertised the car under instruction from my employer so we could see it privately and pay off the finance settlement to release me from it. The price I received was lower than the outstanding finance so my employer paid the difference directly to me as a one off payment (just over £3k)
So, I left here a couple of weeks ago and waited until a couple of days ago to get my final pay from him, which I did, however he had included this payment difference I received for the car in my wages meaning I got taxed on it!! leaving me with around 2/5th of what I was expecting to be paid! This has had a massive impact on me as I have been left very short and have young children to provide for!

Is this right? I don't understand tax implications too much but surely this cant be correct? I challenged my employer and was met with 'its HMRCs rules not mine.' This may well be the case but my employer has a pretty bad reputation with anything money related and being a little 'dodgy'

On my wage slips my car payment showed as a 'bonus' each month, same as the final £3k payment did so obviously the taxman has had a field day. To add to this the only reason the car sold for what it did is because of the very high mileage that was accumulated for work use!

If anyone can help me with this so I can challenge him with hard facts, I would be extremely grateful

section 44
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Re: Company Car Nightmare - please help!

Postby section 44 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:08 am

As described you didn't have a company car.

The payments you received from your employer were employment income - effectively salary, irrespective of whether this was described on your payslip as a "car allowance". Accordingly, the payments are subject to tax and NI in the same way as your salary.

You had a private/personal car, which you sometimes used for business and received some expenses reimbursements.

robbob
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Joined: Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:01 pm

Re: Company Car Nightmare - please help!

Postby robbob » Fri Sep 18, 2015 10:12 am

If you used the car for business mileage and were not specifically paid anything tax free then you can claim tax relief from hmrc with regard to the work related mileage (excluding ordinary commuting)

krs6248
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Joined: Thu Sep 17, 2015 4:36 pm

Re: Company Car Nightmare - please help!

Postby krs6248 » Fri Sep 18, 2015 1:47 pm

Ok thank you both for the quick response, much appreciated.
Looks like ill have to take this one on the chin, lesson learnt I suppose. It's just very bad timing as I received a P800 literally the same day as apparently I have underpaid £1500 tax while working here also! Thank god iv gone

Thanks again

King_Maker
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Joined: Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:22 pm

Re: Company Car Nightmare - please help!

Postby King_Maker » Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:07 pm

As you have found out, this can be a complex area of tax.

What redress/compensation are you hoping to achieve? And who from - employer or HMRC?


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