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Paying NI from abroad - class 2 or 3?

solange
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Joined: Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:00 pm

Paying NI from abroad - class 2 or 3?

Postby solange » Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:07 pm

Hi Guys

I live abroad and I want to top up my ni contributions for my pension and phoned the DWP. They told me I needed to fill in an overseas ni contributions application form - all good so far.Whilst in the uk I had in excess of 10 rental properties. This was my only job. I managed the day to day running of these and was actively seeking to buy more, therefore from the guidelines I have read I believe I am eligible for class 2 ni, until the profit threshold is reached and then I am required to pay class 4.

My dilemma is what happens now I live abroad. A letting agent manages the properties so I assume I am not considered self employed in this respect (even though I am still looking to buy more properties in the UK). I also am not employed here, however I consider myself a part time artist and sell my paintings online.

Would this be considered as self employed and therefore class 2?

Many thanks for any help

JOHNRE
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Joined: Sat Feb 06, 2016 2:03 pm

Re: Paying NI from abroad - class 2 or 3?

Postby JOHNRE » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:20 pm

Hi, have you read this?

https://www.gov.uk/national-insurance-if-you-go-abroad

My son recently applied to pay voluntary Class 2 NI because he is now working abroad. HMRC declined his application by stating there were two factors that they took into account:

1. Whether the applicant was employed or self-employed directly before going abroad.

2. The state of their current NI record - my son was declined because they considered his record to be "sparse" (we are currently in the process of appealing this adjudication)

As a Landlord I am assuming that you would have been classified as Self-Employed before you went abroad?

Best wishes.

John


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